Why is the English Language Arts and Reading 4-8 test even offered?

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  1. EducateElise

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    In Texas at least because I have yet to find an elementary school that has 4th or 5th grade Language Arts (only). Most positions are requiring that 4th and 5th grade have dual instruction of ELA and Social Studies. I feel like I wasted my time and money with that test. I'm having a hard time passing the EC-6 (failed it twice) and yes I could teach ELA on the middle school level but those kids are so sassy. My hands are tied.
     
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    They designed the Core Subjects test to fail people IMO. That thing was a hot mess.

    I passed the Generalist EC-6 thank you Jesus but the new Core Subjects EC-6 and 4-8you have to have a minimun 240 on each section.

    I don't even want to talk about my score on the Core Subjects 4-8 test except to say Thank the Lord it was free! So no great loss.


    I thought that ELA 4-8 tests was only offered with the Social Studies addition. It's offered for a middle school certification. In secondary education you only need certification in your teaching area.

    Elementary is so basic they want a basic certification so you can be moved around if need be.

    Secondary is so specialized and in depth there is NO WAY they could ever have a 6-8 Generalist for middle school because you can't go from IPC to 7th grade geometry and back and forth. You need that expert certification in a certain area.

    Did you think you could teach elementary with just that test? What made you take it in the first place? Elem is PK-5 and a test that's 4-5 is only two grade levels when that's not even half of the school?
     
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    You're right. I believe I was looking to take the easy way out. I became discouraged when I failed the EC-6 so I figured with English being my strongest subject I should teach what I'm good at. Initially I wanted to just teach 6th grade reading but I became turned off by the behavior of the students. I REALLY want to teach elementary but I'm having a tough time passing the test. And I became even further discouraged when I learned that the new test is now EC-8!! That's two more grade levels to study for!!!!! The test is so broad it's hard to study when you don't know just WHAT to study.

    Can you share how you managed to pass it?
     
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    My school has ELAR only positions K-6.
     
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    Seriously? Are you in Houston? Which district?
     
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    Maybe look for something along the lines of reading intervention for elem?
     
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    I'm in a rural area.
     
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    It's still EC-6 and 4-8 separate.

    Get this book. I studied the EC-4 version as that's the one I found. It's like a giant Generalist textbook and I study by highlighter and I'm good at remembering facts and words especially if I highlight it.

    That book is golden. As far as what to study....it's all in there.
    http://www.amazon.com/Texas-TExES-Generalist-Teacher-Certification-ebook/dp/B00B2S52KM

    It worked for me because I needed a crash course in elementary education. I'd forgotten ALL elementary math. Just calling it commutative, associate and distributive properties!

    All kinds of scatter plot lingo and how to read graphs :eek:....I worked in non-corporate America so making graphs and reading data was not a part of daily life from college until I became a teacher. Fractions? Uh....no.

    I did my math in college and then it was all major classes so math other than basic calculator functions was non existent.


    Schools do have ELA only positions but that almost always 100% want a generalist certification. So much changes. Here at least the districts I've seen in Houston the ELA only positions are 3-5. Some like to islote reading and writing for STAAR purposes IMO.

    But those grades usually have the least about of students. They could hire you for a 4th grade writing position then the 4th grade gets a dip in enrollment and they need to drop a teacher. Last one hired so that's you so they'd need to move you to a higher number grade...usually KG and that's a generalist grade. You teach ELA,SS,M,S and you're out of luck with your certification because you need to be highly qualified to teach everything you teach and you can't teach M/SS/S so you get booted.
     
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    You are absolutely right about my level of marketability. And I just ordered the Luis Rosado book you've mentioned. I also wondered if they have an EC-6 prep course you could take with an actual class and instructor.
     
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    EducateElise, did you ever get around to passing your EC-6 test? Took it today and it's still the Core Subjects EC-6.
     
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    Jul 17, 2017 at 4:32 AM

    Generally the 4-8 tests are for people who PLAN to teach middle school. Middle schools have different configurations. A middle school near me went grades 5-8 one year because of overcrowding in elementary. Then there are intermediate schools, too.

    Generally people who plan to teach elementary, even if they want to stay in upper elementary, will take the elementary tests.

    EDIT: Oh. This is from two years ago. Oops.
     

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